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Thoughts on Life: Don’t They Know It’s The End Of The World?

Thinking_44121810I’ve been thinking about some big things. Now, I will be the first to tell you that

  1. I might be way over my head in these ponderings, and

  2. I might also be completely wrong ( or at least a little off base 🙂

But let me go on and you can add your thoughts and ideas and arguments in the comments, I would love that.

In our current social/political climate I think it’s understandable that I would be asking a lot of questions about the fate of our world, from gun laws and mass shootings to same sex marriage and divorce, I think it’s fair to say the moral compass of our land is in question but my big thoughts are more concerned with  the roles of the church and followers of Christ in this present situation.Are we really doing what , based on the Bible, our beliefs command us to do?As a very wise friend of mine said, in a fabulous blog post you should totally read

“ In the Great Commission it says to make disciples of all nations … not disciple the nation.”

If, as the Bible teaches us , we believe that this world will part ways with the way God intended it to be to the point that Jesus returns, what then is our role in this predictable sinking ship, if you will ?

As Galadriel says in The Lord of the Rings ” The time of the elves is over.Do we leave Middle-Earth to this fate? Do we let them stand alone?”

If we look at Jesus in the Gospels we do not see a man concerned with the political arena, a man desperate to change the morals of the people by way of the laws of the land. We see our Saviour in the communities he finds himself, reaching out for connections with the people. We see Him meeting their needs, reaching into their lives through relationship, compassion, kindness.

Right now is a trying and yet wonderful time to be a part of the Body of Christ, Grace is being taught and lived in our churches in a more honest way than it has been in a long time, but at the same time our influence in the world is  decreasing.Truthfully I would have to say that we are in the middle of two extremes, on one side we are overly concerned with “ discipling  the nation” and on the other we are courting the worlds affection and second guessing every sermon to make sure we aren’t offending anyone. I know this is not an easy road to navigate,it’s right for us to proclaim the Gospel and to be fearless in our desire for holiness, and  it’s right for us to challenge ourselves against scripture and check our selves to make sure we are being loving and speaking truth in that love , at the same time Jesus made it very clear that the world would hate us the way they hated Him.  (John 15:18) Can we handle that?

In an open letter to the American Church, author Brennan Manning wrote at length about the state of our church today , the whole letter is worth reading but I will only quote a bit of it here, You can read the rest in his book The Signature of Jesus.

“If the apostle (Paul) were to return to the earth today, I believe he would call the entire American church to return to the discipline of the secret. This ancient practice of the apostolic church was implemented to protect the sacred name of Jesus Christ from mockery and the mysteries of the Christian faith from profanation. The ancient church avoided mention of baptism, Eucharist, and the death and resurrection of Christ in the presence of the unbaptized. Why?  Because the most persuasive witness was the way one lived, not the words one spoke. Soren Kierkegaard once described two types of Christians: The first group comprises those who imitate Jesus Christ; the second are those who are content to speak about him. “ (emphasis mine)

If we are supposed to leave people with no question of our faith and if the best way to demonstrate and share our faith is through showing real tangible love in the ways that Jesus demonstrated then aren’t we called to be set apart by our unfathomable love for others and extreme acts of grace and mercy ?To truly set ourselves apart by our actions in this world? Perhaps living our faith out loud is not about standing on a street corner yelling about the sins of the world but being a people that act so differently that the world is forced to ask “ what is the hope that is in you?”

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Exodus Week-End Review for Feb.15th

This week’s review topics are. . .

  • Leadership Reunion recap
  • Upcoming Freedom Conference details
  • Question of the week ” Does Exodus Have A Policy on Gay Marriage?”
  • Donating to the Exodus Freedom scholarship fund

To help support Exodus or to donate to the scholarship fund visit exodusinternational.org/support-exodus/give-now/

For more info and to register for the conference  go to exodusfreedom.org  

 

 

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Proud Daughters Are We.

A few months ago our church NewChurch Georgetown asked our dad to help them make this video by sharing about his relationship with our mom. We are proud to share this little bit of their story with you here.

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To go or Not to go, that is the question

These days it’s pretty common to be invited to the civil union of a same sex couple. It might be a friend or co-worker or someone even closer like a parent brother,sister or other family member but as a Christian that often brings up a hard question. If I go am I compromising my faith? What does my going say , that I approve? When you love these people and you want to know how to best answer that question it can start to feel like a tug of war. I don’t have the answers but at the Exodus Freedom Conference this past summer a couple named Alan and Denise Taylor  shared their testimony and  touched on that very question and what they shared changed my heart on this issue completely . In this blog post Randy Thomas shares about that and his own thoughts on this question. I hope you find it helpful. I know I did. You can purchase a copy of the couple’s testimony from the conference here, you can also purchase lots of the other testimonies there as well but the Taylor’s is about the 14th one down.

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They Will Know Us By Our Chicken

They Will Know Us By Our Chicken

One of our favorite bloggers/writers has written a very thoughtful and insightful blog post about all this chicken mess and what the deeper issues really are (he also happens to be a friend and a very cool guy ) Go read his post and/ or some of his other posts. He’s pretty smart.

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Why we eat at Chick-fil -a .

As you know there have been so many people commenting on this topic and while we I find great value in  everyone using their voices and platforms to share what they think, I am pretty ready for this debate to be out of the news. I’ve been wanting to say something for a while but just couldn’t decide how. So here I am finally , just wanting to share Why I eat at chick-fil-a .  And that’s the same reason’s I might add that I get my coffee from Starbucks. The reason is they make a good product and I enjoy the atmosphere . Simple. I greatly respect the Cathy family and how they run their businesses (starbucks too ) . I don’t agree with all the words their spokesperson used when he talked about same sex marriage( I will share my thoughts on that in a later post) but I think he had the right to speak them. Anyway I wanted to take this time to share another blog’s opinion that I thought was really great. Matt Chambers shares his thoughts on this situation here .

I totally agree with him and hope that gets people thinking about what really matters and what we should make sure we are really fighting for and I believe that is . . . people.

 

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Are we glorifying heterosexuality?

Some thoughts on the Debate – 2 – The Glorification of Heterosexuality

Kristin pointed this post out to me this morning and at first I wasn’t sure what I was getting myself into, but after a cup of coffee and coming through to the other side of the sleep fog, I thought this was a rather compelling argument by Peter Ould (blogger for An Exercise in the Fundamentals of Orthodoxy) and ultimately Jonathan Mills (author of Love, Covenant, and Meaning). In the Glorification of Heterosexuality Peter (and Jonathan) suggest that allowing sexual desire and attraction to be the leading reason for heterosexual marriage is making even the most conservative of conservative Christians a hypocrite in the fight against legalized gay marriage.

I was a little skeptical at first, the idea of marriage as a contract without romance (as I know it) doesn’t sound all of that appealing, and to call the contract a more biblical approach to marriage… well you’re beginning to tread on some very thin ice, however, I’m not too proud to admit that I may have a flawed, or perhaps limited, understanding of romance, and if you give the blog post a second, it starts to make some sense.

I’ve mentioned in previous posts here my original reaction to my parents saying that God brought them together, and I how I felt it was a bit cold, I felt they had been robbed of romance, however as I got older and got to watch their relationship mature I realized that not only was  romance there, it was something much deeper than what I was seeing declared romantic in the world around me. There was a richness and intimacy in their relationship that was missing from the stories I read, the movies I watched, and even in the relationships I experienced.

Interestingly enough, and in favor of both Peter and Jonathan’s argument, my parent’s marriage wasn’t the product of sexual desire or attraction, it was a union they felt led to by God, something that was not only His will for them, but that was for both of their betterment.

I encourage you to give it a read, if nothing else, it’s challenging to think about.

Questions, comments, concerns?

 

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Zach Wahls Speech About His Family

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“Zach Wahls, a 19-year-old University of Iowa student spoke about the strength of his family during a public forum on House Joint Resolution 6 in the Iowa House of Representatives. Wahls has two mothers, and came to oppose House Joint Resolution 6 which would end civil unions in Iowa.

The fight to keep marriage equality in Iowa continues, help us support Iowans like Zach.” from YouTube

A link to this video was posted in my Twitter feed this morning as something inspirational to watch today.  I clicked through out of curiosity, it’s always interesting to me to see what other people find inspiring. What inspires a person says a lot about them, I think.

I paused a long minute before posting this video here.

I just wasn’t sure what I wanted to say about it. No doubt, Zach’s speech is moving, it moved me… But I don’t think it moved me in quite the way it was meant to.

You see, I understand Zach’s position. I know what it’s like to feel passionately about the family who made me into the person I am today, I know the burning desire to defend and protect that family, and I know how it feels to have people invalidate my family, to tell me that my family, and ultimately that I, should not exist.

While my understanding doesn’t waver my personal position on gay marriage, it does move me to an even greater realization that what we’re doing (us, the church), it’s not working. I think sometimes, a lot of times, our attention is focused so much on what we’re fighting against, that we forget what we’re fighting for, and it doing so, we forget that the people on the “other side” are people.

People love, even in spite of themselves sometimes, we love. It’s what we were created to do. Satan’s found a million ways to corrupt how love manifests itself, but the manifestation doesn’t change the fact that at its roots, it’s still love.  Love is a big thing… it justifies, it reasons, you can present it with all the facts you want, but facts can’t break through the bond of love.  If you were in an argument with my sister, you could give me all the evidence in the world that she is wrong, but at the end of the day I’m going to be on her side, I’m going to defend her, because I love her.

So this battle we’re fighting, it’s about love, but we’re mostly fighting it with facts and that doesn’t work. What they hear in our message is “stop loving” stop loving your partner, stop loving your child, your parent, your friend, your neighbor, your aunt, your uncle, you brother, your sister…

I don’t know about you, but I’ve never chosen the people I love, so if you were to tell me to stop, I’d tell you that wasn’t an option, because it flows through me without asking my permission, it just is. I can only imagine that this is how Zach feels about the women who raised him, who’ve nurtured and mothered him his entire life.

Now, I don’t claim to have all the answers to how we need to change in order to do this right, but I do know two things for certain: 1.) Change, we must,  and 2.) the only thing that can challenge love is Greater Love.

We’ve spent an awfully long time drawing a line between us and The World in an attempt to set apart. I think it’s time for this to stop. Jesus was definitely set apart, and yet, he was busy getting his hands dirty the entire time he was walking the planet. He was having meals with the people we’re constantly trying to distance ourselves from.

We don’t need a line to stand behind, we need new eyes to see with, and then we need to get in there and LOVE.

-Katie

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Women and same-sex marriage… hmmm.

Kristin is my finder-of-all-interesting-things to think and talk about and this morning I read this short post to Faith and Family ‘s blog that she sent me in an email a couple of days ago. Faith and Family is a Catholic magazine and blog.

The entry is really short but I wanted to quote so this blog post isn’t so mysterious, writer Rebecca Teti says,

I haven’t seen anyone make the argument but it seems obvious to me that for the law to say that same-sex marriage is the moral equivalent of one-man, one-woman marriage is simultaneously to proclaim that the unique gifts of women are officially, by government decree, not in any way important.

I need some more time to sort out my exact thoughts on this idea… It seems the post is suggesting that  removing the prospect of procreation from a marriage in a same-sex union, it is an assault on women because we are the bearers of children. Or something like that…

Again, I’m not sure how I feel about this particular angle or argument, and wanted to throw it out there to see if anyone else has anything to say about it, however it does touch on some things that I feel very strongly about when it comes to women and homosexuality (which I’m going to write about this evening).

If you have thoughts, please share!

-Katie

 

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